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Forum Chess Tournament?
« on: November 12, 2013, 09:52:23 pm »
Um.
Yeah.
A forum chess tournament.
Because why not?


In my mind, the (initial) tournament will be as follows:
  • Vanilla Chess, no variants whatsoever.
  • Multiple matches will be going simultaneously; four matches in the first round, two matches in the second round, and only one match in the third round.
  • Eight players will be required for this.
  • Each member needs a special badge; this badge will be given to the victor of a chess match and is different from the normal Chess player badges like the Keyblade Storm that Dr. Egregious and Wayne got from defeating me.
  • Resignations not accepted; it's a full-on death match if you want to call it that.
  • Each member has a color as well. A color can't be chosen if someone else has it.
  • Listening to awesome music is optional.



Once each member has their special badge created, and there are eight players, we can pick a date to begin this tournament with.


By the way: please state your opinion on this.
Or, in the words of Wayne:
PLEASE POST YOUR CHOICE OR I'LL GET TO YOU AND EAT YOUR SOUL ~Wayne
Or, in my words:
Please post your choice. Otherwise the Evernight and Everlight armies will team up and annihilate you until the Fire Nation attacked, leading to the end of existence in another universe of a freeform RPG. Oh, and all 55 elements will be super effective on you, and Endania will be cursed with the eternal darkness that exists as a location, a monster and a song simultaneously. By the way, have I mentioned that the Fire Nation will attack?
...
Not only was that random, but I think I've broken the timestamp somehow. :))
... Too much randomness though D:



If you wish to participate in this, just say so; also state your color.

Obviously I'll pick green. :P
I don't know if Taylor or her sisters (or Charlotte) will take part...
I'll take red as well just in case Taylor wants to take part.

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Shane
Taylor? (unsure of; placeholder for now)
Wayne
« Last Edit: November 13, 2013, 09:12:48 am by Shane »
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Re: Forum Chess Tournament?
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2013, 12:36:23 am »
How will the special badges work?
I'm also not sure about not accepting resignations, but it's not a big deal ^.^

Other than that, this is a good idea, i'd like this colour :3
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Re: Forum Chess Tournament?
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2013, 12:43:40 am »
I will participate with purple pieces.   :)   Lovely idea!

And I love the concept of fighting to the death without quarter.  However: in formal tournament settings, any refusal to move is designated a "resignation".  If I'm playing Wayne and I hang a rook, giving him an easy shot, then I could walk away from the board in a rage and that would be a resignation.  So if we're not going to allow surrender (and even if we did, really) I'm going to strongly recommend time controls, for instance an instant forfeiture for any player who takes longer than twenty-four hours to move without prior notice.

A further suggestion.  If we're going to do this as a single-elimination tournament, some players might worry about the chance element involved in playing Black or White and the advantage conferred thereby; I recommend allowing the losing player the option to demand a rematch with the colors reversed.  If the loser loses again, that's it.  If the loser wins the second game, we apply some sort of tiebreaker, like giving the win to the player who won in fewer moves.

One last thing.  What about draws?  I hate draws, personally, and we haven't seen one happen yet, but what if one does happen?

And a last last thing.  I'm the moderator for the chess forums, so if we get to a point where eight people have signed up and a ninth wants to play, I'll give up my place.  Additionally, if a game I'm involved in requires moderation, I'll defer to someone else.

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Re: Forum Chess Tournament?
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2013, 06:14:31 am »
EGREGIOUS!
You stole my beloved color!

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I choose crimson, then. Because Terraria.

Of course the matches will have separate threads? Or I won't be able to play...

Either way, my opinion is positive. And I'm listening to awesome music while posting this, for pure epicness.

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Re: Forum Chess Tournament?
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2013, 06:24:01 am »
How will the special badges work?
I'm also not sure about not accepting resignations, but it's not a big deal ^.^
They're basically like the normal Chess badges: defeat a player, you get their "Special Chess Badge".
For instance, defeating me grants the "Forum Ghost" badge (I found an animated ".gif" file at another forum which I [technically] administrate, which looks like a Night Spirit from Cave Story...) and this is it:
However, each participant only has this kind of badge; defeating the same person over and over doesn't award a different badge or the same badge.
Also, normal Chess badges have a maximum size of 32x32 pixels, but Tournament Chess Badges (or Chess Tournament Badges, whichever works) have a maximum size of 48x48 pixels.

Other than that, this is a good idea, i'd like this colour :3
Right.

I will participate with purple pieces.   :)   Lovely idea!
Thank you. :)

And I love the concept of fighting to the death without quarter.  However: in formal tournament settings, any refusal to move is designated a "resignation".  If I'm playing Wayne and I hang a rook, giving him an easy shot, then I could walk away from the board in a rage and that would be a resignation.  So if we're not going to allow surrender (and even if we did, really) I'm going to strongly recommend time controls, for instance an instant forfeiture for any player who takes longer than twenty-four hours to move without prior notice.
Well, the tournament-related stuff are just initial, nothing's finalized yet.

A further suggestion.  If we're going to do this as a single-elimination tournament, some players might worry about the chance element involved in playing Black or White and the advantage conferred thereby; I recommend allowing the losing player the option to demand a rematch with the colors reversed.  If the loser loses again, that's it.  If the loser wins the second game, we apply some sort of tiebreaker, like giving the win to the player who won in fewer moves.
That's a great idea. :)
But what if both are equal?

For example:
Amy and Rio play a chess match, and Rio is winning as Black in 15 moves.
At the end of the match, Amy demands a rematch with the colors reversed.
Amy, playing as Black in this match, wins in 15 moves.

What would happen then?

One last thing.  What about draws?  I hate draws, personally, and we haven't seen one happen yet, but what if one does happen?
Um. We could send in reinforcements of more Pawns for each player? XD

Seriously, though, I think that we ought to have a rematch with the colors reversed.
In the event of a second draw in a row, though, we could apply a tiebreaker of some sort.

And a last last thing.  I'm the moderator for the chess forums, so if we get to a point where eight people have signed up and a ninth wants to play, I'll give up my place.  Additionally, if a game I'm involved in requires moderation, I'll defer to someone else.

Understood.

I choose crimson, then. Because Terraria.
Well, this should be interesting XD

Crimson and Corruption, two biomes in Terraria represented by Crimson and Purple respectively.
Redcrimson... may make it hard to distinguish between red and crimson, but crimson is a color. :)

Of course the matches will have separate threads? Or I won't be able to play...
Yep. They'll even be in their specific board (a special board for tournaments like these).
Said board has yet to be made though.

Either way, my opinion is positive. And I'm listening to awesome music while posting this, for pure epicness.
I listen to awesome music most of the time. ^_^


Okay. The initial tournament plans has seen some changes:
  • Vanilla Chess, no variants whatsoever.
  • Multiple matches will be going simultaneously; four matches in the first round, two matches in the second round, and only one match in the third round.
  • Eight players will be required for this.
  • Each member needs a special badge; this badge will be given to the victor of a chess match and is different from the normal Chess player badges like the Keyblade Storm that Dr. Egregious and Wayne got from defeating me.
  • Resignations not accepted; it's a full-on death match if you want to call it that. Any refusal to move counts as a resignation. Players have 24 hours to make their move.
  • Each member has a color as well. A color can't be chosen if someone else has it.
  • The losing player may demand a rematch with the colors reversed; if he or she wins the second game some sort of tiebreaker is applied, such as giving the win to the player who won in fewer moves.
  • Listening to awesome music is optional.
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Re: Forum Chess Tournament?
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2013, 06:40:42 am »
What if a member isn't able to post their move in 24 hours?
No time, no Net... Anything can happen.

I recommend changing it to at least 36 hours.

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Re: Forum Chess Tournament?
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2013, 07:39:02 am »
I'll join in as blue...

I agree, though...
36 hours, instead of 24...


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Re: Forum Chess Tournament?
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2013, 12:14:14 pm »
I'll take Cyan, since Charlotte took my favorite color. :P


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Re: Forum Chess Tournament?
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2013, 12:41:44 pm »
I'll take Cyan, since Charlotte took my favorite color. :P
That's the same color Aurora picked, isn't it?

Shane: (I haven't figured out how to quote individual snippets XD) In regards to a second-level tiebreak if both games take the same number of moves (unlikely), we could go by which player ended up with more material on the board (1 point for each pawn, 3 per knight and bishop, 5 per rook, 9 per queen), and after that we could go by whose king advanced further.  I doubt we'll need more than three levels of tiebreakers.   :D

In regards to the limit of twenty-four hours (or any other number): Maybe we could allow a player to declare in advance that he won't be moving within the time limit, say if he's going camping and won't have Internet access.

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Re: Forum Chess Tournament?
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2013, 12:45:12 pm »
He's going camping in Counter-Strike?

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Re: Forum Chess Tournament?
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2013, 01:01:27 pm »
I'll take Cyan, since Charlotte took my favorite color. :P
That's the same color Aurora picked, isn't it?
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It's much like TaylorWayne...

Both colors look a lot alike, but aren't... D:

(I haven't figured out how to quote individual snippets XD)

I'll try to help out... whether I get ninja'd by time or space... or both...

To quote multiple posts... just click the Quote button for each post...

To quote specific segments of a post...
I'll take one of your posts as an example... using the [nobbc][/nobbc] BBCode... and place it in a spoiler...
Just mouse-over it... preferably without Pikachu being used as the computer's mouse... :P

Spoiler: Large wall of text... (hover to show)

That did help, right...?

In regards to a second-level tiebreak if both games take the same number of moves (unlikely), we could go by which player ended up with more material on the board (1 point for each pawn, 3 per knight and bishop, 5 per rook, 9 per queen), and after that we could go by whose king advanced further.  I doubt we'll need more than three levels of tiebreakers.   :D
And if it somehow ends up as a tie again (which would just be extremely unlikely)... we could just have another, final match...?

In regards to the limit of twenty-four hours (or any other number): Maybe we could allow a player to declare in advance that he won't be moving within the time limit, say if he's going camping and won't have Internet access.
And if something unexpected happens, such as, say, a power outage, and a player doesn't have any other way of notifying us...?


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Re: Forum Chess Tournament?
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2013, 08:33:37 pm »
Shane: (I haven't figured out how to quote individual snippets XD) In regards to a second-level tiebreak if both games take the same number of moves (unlikely), we could go by which player ended up with more material on the board (1 point for each pawn, 3 per knight and bishop, 5 per rook, 9 per queen), and after that we could go by whose king advanced further.  I doubt we'll need more than three levels of tiebreakers.   :D
Aye.
Still, better safe than sorry. :P

In regards to the limit of twenty-four hours (or any other number): Maybe we could allow a player to declare in advance that he won't be moving within the time limit, say if he's going camping and won't have Internet access.
I agree. :)

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And if something unexpected happens, such as, say, a power outage, and a player doesn't have any other way of notifying us...?
That would be unexpected... and a problem, I'd say...
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Re: Forum Chess Tournament?
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2013, 08:44:55 pm »
I'm in.

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Re: Forum Chess Tournament?
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2013, 08:07:34 pm »
Ah, Shane, the second quote in your post is somehow from the future. D:


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Re: Forum Chess Tournament?
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2013, 10:11:32 pm »
We're up to seven players, correct?

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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2013, 12:19:56 am »
LIME

Ill make my own badge later :3


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Re: Forum Chess Tournament?
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2013, 02:16:15 am »


Will this work as a badge?
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Re: Forum Chess Tournament?
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2013, 03:03:44 am »
Oh right, we all need badges first...frankly, I forgot about making mine because I didn't plan on losing any games.  Shame on me.  XD  I'll have it out soon.

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Re: Forum Chess Tournament?
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2013, 07:22:36 am »
Oh right, we all need badges first...frankly, I forgot about making mine because I didn't plan on losing any games.  Shame on me.  XD  I'll have it out soon.
To quote a certain young lady:
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Unexpected things always happens to those who expect them to be otherwise... :)

So... badgers. Er, I mean, badges. XD

Shane, or Taylor, if you're taking part in this - we'll find out soon - you can work on any of my badges. :)
Except my Tournament Badge. Shane, you said it has to be 48x48 pixels, right?
If so, use my animated signature pic. :)

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Re: Forum Chess Tournament?
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2013, 08:22:39 am »

Will this work as a badge?
If it's for chess-tournaments, then yes! :)
Name? Badge description?

Oh right, we all need badges first...frankly, I forgot about making mine because I didn't plan on losing any games.  Shame on me.  XD  I'll have it out soon.
To quote a certain young lady:
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Unexpected things always happens to those who expect them to be otherwise... :)
You said that at Quotev, didn't you?
Anyway, if I remember correctly, Dr. Egregious has two Grimoires planned, something like that, for his main badges.

So... badgers. Er, I mean, badges. XD

Shane, or Taylor, if you're taking part in this - we'll find out soon - you can work on any of my badges. :)
Except my Tournament Badge. Shane, you said it has to be 48x48 pixels, right?
If so, use my animated signature pic. :)

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"Charlotte Badge": a badge obtained by defeating Charlotte in a match of a chess tournament.
Gotcha.
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Re: Forum Chess Tournament?
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2013, 08:28:34 am »
Just a picture of my pixelated mii as my badge.

(not good at pixel art, and too lazy to practice and make a badge image. :P ).


EDIT BY SHANE: Um. You could just resize it, couldn't you?
« Last Edit: November 17, 2013, 08:30:22 am by Shane »


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Re: Forum Chess Tournament?
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2013, 10:24:43 am »
EDIT BY SHANE: Um. You could just resize it, couldn't you?
Wouldn't it end up looking horrific? D:


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Re: Forum Chess Tournament?
« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2013, 06:07:12 am »

Will this work as a badge?
If it's for chess-tournaments, then yes! :)
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Re: Forum Chess Tournament?
« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2013, 10:31:41 am »
I'll be going not as red (Wayne using Crimson makes it hard to distinguish from the two), so I'll go with...

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If the forum style wasn't black, Dr. Egregious would have chosen black as his color; if need be we could change the forum style to white for the duration of the tournament, if no-one has any protests.
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Re: Forum Chess Tournament?
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2013, 08:24:58 pm »
I'll be going not as red (Wayne using Crimson makes it hard to distinguish from the two), so I'll go with...

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If the forum style wasn't black, Dr. Egregious would have chosen black as his color; if need be we could change the forum style to white for the duration of the tournament, if no-one has any protests.
You know that from TVTropes, I take it?   :D   I would indeed choose black if the background allowed it, but there's no need to change everything around me.   :)

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Re: Forum Chess Tournament?
« Reply #25 on: November 20, 2013, 01:27:58 pm »
While black is the forum background (at least for now), grey is still usable. (The forum news header uses it, I think.)
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